Comments on: Should I Install Vista? http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/ What would OJ do? Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:33:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Keef’s Musings » Blog Archive » Windows Vista http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-293 Keef’s Musings » Blog Archive » Windows Vista Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:36:48 +0000 http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/#comment-293 [...] OJ’s sage advice, I now am running Vista Ultimate on my home PC. I picked up an OEM edition when buying a new power [...] [...] OJ’s sage advice, I now am running Vista Ultimate on my home PC. I picked up an OEM edition when buying a new power [...]

]]> By: Keef http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-296 Keef Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:10:17 +0000 http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/#comment-296 The only compelling reason I can think of to actually buy Vista at the moment is that I'm running a slightly dodgy (ahem) copy of XP - the last bit of pirated software on my PC I might add after migrating to OpenOffice (which more than meets my requirements for writing the odd letter and viewing Office files). I can't see me paying for something now that I've been using for years with no problems so I may as well go for the latest and greatest if my wallet's getting involved. Remember also that when XP first came out it was a pain in the arse for gamers, mostly due to driver problems as the NT driver model was totally different than for Win98 (though the driver authors did get a bit of a headstart since Windows 2000 had DX8 at the time). After about a year or so, barely any game on Win98 outperformed XP and there were several free real mode DOS emulators for the few oldies that wouldn't run. Your other issue is one of DRM, but to me it's a non-issue. If you don't like it, don't use it (just as I don't use iTunes now). Vista doesn't stop me playing any of my music. I think I will move to Vista, just not yet. I reckon around this Christmas or not long after it'll be there. The only compelling reason I can think of to actually buy Vista at the moment is that I’m running a slightly dodgy (ahem) copy of XP – the last bit of pirated software on my PC I might add after migrating to OpenOffice (which more than meets my requirements for writing the odd letter and viewing Office files). I can’t see me paying for something now that I’ve been using for years with no problems so I may as well go for the latest and greatest if my wallet’s getting involved.

Remember also that when XP first came out it was a pain in the arse for gamers, mostly due to driver problems as the NT driver model was totally different than for Win98 (though the driver authors did get a bit of a headstart since Windows 2000 had DX8 at the time). After about a year or so, barely any game on Win98 outperformed XP and there were several free real mode DOS emulators for the few oldies that wouldn’t run.

Your other issue is one of DRM, but to me it’s a non-issue. If you don’t like it, don’t use it (just as I don’t use iTunes now). Vista doesn’t stop me playing any of my music.

I think I will move to Vista, just not yet. I reckon around this Christmas or not long after it’ll be there.

]]> By: OJ http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-298 OJ Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:47:59 +0000 http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/#comment-298 I know how you meant it mate, I'm just ruffling your feathers a bit ;) I've not used Fedora at all, so I can't vouch for it's ease of use. But again, I think that the advances that have been made in distributions like Ubuntu shouldnt' be overlooked. I totally understand why you feel no need to change it - but then again you don't fit into any of the categories I listed above, and I'm a believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" :) Those people who are having issues are the ones I'm targetting here. Anyone considering a move to Vista <em>clearly</em> has issues :) I use Windows XP <em>and</em> Linux, and I see no reason to upgrade to Vista. What I have suits me nicely, and no amount of MS waffle is going to make me think otherwise. I know how you meant it mate, I’m just ruffling your feathers a bit ;)
I’ve not used Fedora at all, so I can’t vouch for it’s ease of use. But again, I think that the advances that have been made in distributions like Ubuntu shouldnt’ be overlooked.

I totally understand why you feel no need to change it – but then again you don’t fit into any of the categories I listed above, and I’m a believer in “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” :) Those people who are having issues are the ones I’m targetting here. Anyone considering a move to Vista clearly has issues :)
I use Windows XP and Linux, and I see no reason to upgrade to Vista. What I have suits me nicely, and no amount of MS waffle is going to make me think otherwise.

]]> By: Gav http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-299 Gav Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:27:34 +0000 http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/#comment-299 I didn't mean that as a reason to install Vista instead of Linux. I was just commenting on your point that if you have trouble with XP you might want to try something else. And it was a tongue in cheek comment rather than a serious point anyway. And you're right, I haven't tried installing Linux recently. However, we do have a machine here running Fedora which we just updated which wasn't as effortless as i'd like. Plus setting up other things such as the networking properly wasn't that easy. I did read your post on installing Ubuntu and the steps you had to go through to get the Ati drivers working are the sort of thing that puts me off using Linux (along with my familiarity with Windows). I'm not really in a position to comment on the merits on Linux seeing as I don't actively use it, but I also see no compelling reason to change to it either. I didn’t mean that as a reason to install Vista instead of Linux. I was just commenting on your point that if you have trouble with XP you might want to try something else. And it was a tongue in cheek comment rather than a serious point anyway.

And you’re right, I haven’t tried installing Linux recently. However, we do have a machine here running Fedora which we just updated which wasn’t as effortless as i’d like. Plus setting up other things such as the networking properly wasn’t that easy. I did read your post on installing Ubuntu and the steps you had to go through to get the Ati drivers working are the sort of thing that puts me off using Linux (along with my familiarity with Windows).

I’m not really in a position to comment on the merits on Linux seeing as I don’t actively use it, but I also see no compelling reason to change to it either.

]]> By: OJ http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-297 OJ Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:34:07 +0000 http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/#comment-297 Gav, ease of installation has nothing to do with why I think people should avoid Vista. Also, when was the last time you tried to install Linux? Based on your comment, I think it's been a while. I recommend that you pick up a copy of <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/" title="Ubuntu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu</a> and give it a spin - you'll be surprised how easy it is! Gav, ease of installation has nothing to do with why I think people should avoid Vista.

Also, when was the last time you tried to install Linux? Based on your comment, I think it’s been a while. I recommend that you pick up a copy of Ubuntu and give it a spin – you’ll be surprised how easy it is!

]]> By: Gav http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-295 Gav Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:06:47 +0000 http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/#comment-295 yeah 'cus linux is always such a walk in the park to get up and running... :-) yeah ‘cus linux is always such a walk in the park to get up and running… :-)

]]> By: bryce http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-294 bryce Sun, 18 Feb 2007 03:12:26 +0000 http://buffered.io/2007/02/18/should-i-install-vista/#comment-294 PREACH ON BROTHER JUICE!!! PREACH ON BROTHER JUICE!!!

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